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[rustyjames]

Sully, you keep calling PRESIDENT Trump thin skinned, but it's actually you that have the thin skin. It's like this: if you hit him, he hits back twice as hard. Your liberal ideology will not allow you to accept that he doesn't let the media orchestrate the narrative; which has now shifted back to racism. The Russian narrative seems to be loosing its luster. I predict the next will be he's mentally unstable.

I will repeat this again: I never liked PRESIDENT Trump: never watched any of his shows, never read any of his books, and always thought of him as an a$$hole. But the more the MSM attacks him the more I like him. And I know I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

[Burgerman]

What makes it worse is that most of these liberal students, the angry and intollerant liberal snowflakes, the media, etc do not even realise they are just biased against him. Because they *know* that they are right. They are all brainwashed to death. Accepting that all religions are equal in spite of massive evidence to the contrary is a typical example. And we are not allowed to even point it out! Same with colour, ethnicity, climate change, etc. And these idiots all tend to be socialists too.

So anyone WITH an actual opinion like trump or a like or dislike of say gays, or mexicans (or muslims) isnt *allowed* that opinion. Not any longer. it doesent matter if the evidence shows them to be correct. That just makes them rant about islamophobia more. So trump is automatically wrong. His view of muslims, blacks, and many other things, is to them simply morally *wrong*... And they have made much of the population believe this. According to modern day liberal "law". You see "we" have been taught WHAT to think and what we are allowed to accept.

Yet if those leftist/liberal Antifa idiots riot or cause trouble then its OK. Why is this? It agrees with the liberal elitist left wing worldview the media and the over educated idiots at universities hold. The very same that infest the media. The same ones that overload the media with anything gay, communist, muslim, black, etc. This was trumps "all sides'...

[rustyjames]

The liberal thought process door only swings one way, their way. Do as I say, don't do as I do. Completely divorced from reality.

[Burgerman]

Mostly it seems to stick its head i the sand and ignore the reality. I wonder how liberal gay xstians would get on in the "terrorists" religions own countries?

I could explain that to them. But they will have fingers in ears repeating the same old garbage to themselves.

A must read:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/267673/ ... seph-puder
Suicidal Liberalism:
http://hungarytoday.hu/news/hungarys-no ... alism-2014


https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ note the xstian church... The atrocity of the week.

[rustyjames]

You can't explain anything to them, they're are the know-it-alls; the only adults in the room, etc. And their feelings are easily hurt.

[Burgerman]

The problem is that is most political types, most younger generation, most colleges and schools, almost all the media, and more than half the political parties.

[Burgerman]

Heres a typical long detailed news artical on the spanish attacks. The paper like most papers, or news sites, is liberal biased. As such the word muslim simply does not appear once! And try scanning a few more sites. You will see the same. And theliberal TV same.

Why? Because liberal immigration policies, and allowing huge quantities of muslims in for decades is the reason for all this. They are terrified of the average person associating these attacks and the crime etc with a religion. All religions are peacful. All are the same. All should be accepted. Of cource the "religion of piece" is very different. And if it was true they wouldnt need to keep repeating it! So they have to be special "terrorists" types that are "radicalised" and not normal muslims. Even when they repeatedly tell us otherwise.

Not once. And thats always the case on all mainstream news. They usually dont even release the name in case we guess. Unless thats a european name. http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/18/innocent- ... k-6861180/

[Sully]

Really Rusty? Quote; "The liberal thought process door only swings one way, their way. Do as I say, don't do as I do. Completely divorced from reality". This is pretty closed minded yourself, you put every liberal in the same boat with no slack for any different thoughts. NOT every liberal thinks exactly the same, I am far more conservative than you can ever imagine. It is just I have no respect for the man who was elected President of my country. This man is YES unstable on his best day. He has some fairly good men in positions of authority who he MUST listen to. My problem with this is his judgement with what his advisers might say will be lost in his unstable mind.

I agree the criticisms of this man are brutal, but "HE" creates these opportunities with his off the cuff, "bull shit" tweets. He is an acknowledged bully, when we need a diplomat we have a bully. A man who thinks he can badger his way with leaders of other nations. They give him the finger as soon as he turns away, and ignore him. Unfortunately, this man's instability gives some other unstable people the courage to act outrageously, the North Korean idiot is only one example.

I have no reason to criticize him for how the hurricane and rescue of the Texas storm has gone up until now, Wednesday noon! Each level of intensely practiced disaster control (modules) seems to be working. NO single individual should be able to screw this system up, if it is followed carefully. Every public official must do their job, only their job, to ultimate completion of that job.

I do not pay much attention to these opinion news stations. All News reporters ask questions of everyone when they find a spectacular one, they quote or film them. Rarely are such people happy the situation that is surrounding them. They lash out at everyone and anyone. I have been critical of the news media quite often. It is quite easy to quote some character and leave out a couple of words which in turn changes the intent of the speakers statement. I have had that happen to me, and the next time I was asked by "that" same interviewer I sent them packing.

I do try to create an opinion from what I see, and little of what I myself cannot verify. My mind is quite open to varying thought processes.

[Burgerman]

No trumpis to BLAME forthe floods what with the oil production, pipelines, the french save the planet co2 agreement, etc.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/08/ ... ke-harvey/

According to the liberal media and those like them! I knew it wouldnt be long.

[rustyjames]

@ Sully: Yes! that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it! My Sister is a hard core lib, we can't exist under the same roof.

[Sully]

I guess I do not get it Briebart is not a left leaning rag, it is as far right as you can possibly get. Criticisms of right leaning rags against left or left rags against right are simply not appropriate. But however, are very critical of each others rhetoric, both are useless.

We can criticize the location of these oil refineries but it has been decades since a new one was built in the USA. Just up dates to old ones.

[Sully]

rusty you are too close to her to judge justly. Brothers and sisters /brothers and brothers are simply agitating each other, with their political rhetoric.

[rustyjames]

Sully: Oh no. The few times that I do see Her (been over 3 years) She comes off as the only adult, smartest one in the room. But my Mother and me have to fund Her Pie-In-The-Sky Pipe Dreams. She knows all, can't tell Her anything. We're the stupid ones, who watch our spending, and only buy what we can afford with cash. She's lived in LA and NYC pretty much all Her adult life. She's in Germany now for 3 years. I shut off the funding, and my Mother is at that point, too. All Her self created problems become ours, but I've had enough.

[Burgerman]

The liberal thought process door only swings one way, their way. Do as I say, don't do as I do. Completely divorced from reality.

Quite. And thats why they keep on pushing the open border muslims are nice thing. They are destroying our countries birthright, freedom, and turning them into muslimized places with no freedom at all! How tolerant and open do you think a muslim society is? They kill liberals for being *liberal*!!! And treat women like crap, with no rights, and no education, and coverd faces and bodies because its the WOMANS fault if they get raped or beaten. And of course there are a lot of liberal values when it comes to gay rights (or any rights that dont agree with their koran, and sharia law. They throw gays off roofs, and behead xstians. All very liberal!

But of course you cant tell a liberal this. They wont see it. We are back to that massive elephant doing huge elephant shit that they refuse to see even if you ram thair heads up its backside. But see how they react when you move a family of fighting age muslim men "refugees" (rapeugees) (no children, no women, no old or disabled to be seen here) living 3 to a room, next door to their liberal house full of liberal daughters... They dont want it, or like it. But they wont admit it.To do that means they have to admit their stupid ideology is wrong. And that means they have to accept the blame for all the problems. So instead they keep pushing for MORE liberalism. This is the non elected EU socialist liberal dictartorship in a nutshell.

Every idiot political leader istands up and claims that we are a "liberal democracy". Now. That idnt used to be tha case. So you cant fight this crap. The liberal part has spread so wide that theres no reverse! Left, right, all the same.

[rustyjames]

Was listening to Rush Limbaugh last week and he made a comment that I never gave much thought to: liberals hate anything "normal" but embrace anything off the wall, or divergent behavior. They hate normal white men, especially if they come off as "manly."

[Burgerman]

Thats why its now illegal on mainstream TV to show a game show or any news program, or any pub on a soap, with two normal hetrosexual white people at a time. Without fail, on the Biased Broadcasting Company especially, on the news you never ever get more than one white person at a time. if theres a group of four, 2 will be female, one black, one gay, all are universally leftys and liberal.

Recently after a spate of gay and black, middle eastern, and obviously liberal weather men, and some lesbian women of the obvioulsy manly type (cos thats OK), they found a disabled one! Whooho another box ticked LITERALLY. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ility.html

She is on regulary. Has one arm. The other has a short forarm after the elbow. Whatever she does its on display. Every "top" is short sleeved so we can se it, and dresses are always the same with arm uncovered so we can see this shortened arm in all its glory to prove how liberal they all are. We are to embrace chopped off arms. Any normal non liberal woman would wear longer sleeves at least. So as it wasnt an issue. We want to see the woman, not her disability. But not on the BBC! I kid you not... It would be a spoof comedy if it were not actually true.

She has to stand this way around with a short sleeved top:


Or a no sleeved dress


Again. Theres loads to choose from. All short sleeved.


She got the job after an ad that specifically said that they wanted a disability, no other qualification required. They do the same for every extreem diversity, colour, sex change, religion, deformaty or weirdness etc. Theres almost no normal white, english, hetrosexual people left at the BBC.

What baffles me is this. 95 percent of my town are white, english, and born here according to the census. Like MOST places. And most have dozens of generations of english ancestors. I go into my shopping centre, macdonnalds, pub, and what do I see? Predomenantly white hetrosexual non politically correct men and women. In my local pub theres no black people that I can ever remember being there. Its a hotel too. Theres ONE idiot white muslim convert. And no xstians. At least non that I know of or that dare admit it for fear of ridecule. As far as I know theres no disabled other than me almost all the time, and no obvious gay or lesbians bar maybe once a month - if there is, they must keep to themselves. At least not ones that shove it in your face unlike that weathergirl.

Now its not that I am against ANY of these groups at all. Frankly I dont see them, and dont much care what they are or do, other than religious nuts that I really dont like for logical reasons. Same everywhere I look. Local college, working in any of the places I go. There is a MASSIVE pre-dominance of white, hetrosexual, english people everywhere here.

So why is it that I have to have my nose rubbed into all of the above, along with a month celebrating gay freedom, "coming out"or something, with practically every program dedicated to it, and gay/black/chinese/muslim/disabled/dwarf dedicated programs, show hosts, news readers, guests, program subjects, etc ALL THE DAMNED TIME??? In no way does this libral inspired (and designed to brainwash the masses) bullshit reflect my reality or most other peoples.

Theres another TV liberal leftist issue. Every single program - some completely dedicated to - knocking trump, brexit, hetrosexuals, whites, the right as its actually illegal now to have an opinion, and anything NOT liberal, lefty biased, etc. The guests, the hosts, the program subjects, the general attitude of all of them is the same. And the sad part is that they are in the middle of it and do NOT SEE it. Its normal to them.

The world has begun to see it.

[sacharlie]

Was listening to Rush Limbaugh

Theres the problem, far too many listen to this bombastic bozo.

[sacharlie]

So her right wing is different from her left wing. Why does this bother you?

[Burgerman]

You missed the point COMPLETELY of course as usual. (I know thinking and logic seem too much for you. So why an I bothering?)

I dont care one bit.
As I already said above TWICE.

I DO care that the liberal/leftist media employed her BECAUSE of it to fulfill their liberal agenda, and to ram it in my face at every possible opportunity. As they do with every imaginable variation of sexuality, race, colour, religion, ethnic background, etc. We must all be brainwashed to see everything as equal and acceptable. Been going on for 40 years, but has reached the point of rediculousness. As you either well know, or are trolling.

And I can see why you dont like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh

He isnt a communist and has more than you in brains and cash and success. Seems to make a lot of sense to me.

[sacharlie]

So her right wing is different from her left wing. Why does this bother you?

That one flew over your head. Been happening here lately. If I had only added a . No should have spelled it out with caps like RIGHT WING & LEFT WING.

Also don't care about Loudmouth's money and talking fast without using his brain is his stock-in-trade.
He produces nothing more than chaos.

[Burgerman]

Never seen him, I looked him up and read the wiki page. Seems to make perfect sense to me.

I notice your free speech is getting eroded over there too. Shutting down rallies and all this talk of hatespeech etc. So the liberal western ideoloy is winning over there too.

Even in america your "right" to "free speech" only exists if it doesent offend the liberals... Many rules, and many court cases say so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... exceptions

And this gets worse over time. As it has in the EU. Right now, all across the US students are trying to get their "safe spaces" where they can retreat and hide from opinions or reality that they dont like, spread the whole universities. And eventually society as a whole. For eg no more guests they consider facist, or anti gay, no more opinions about trumps travel ban allowed to be expressed. The only speakers they will allow are those with their own leftist, liberal views. And god forbid you ever use the word muslim in anything but a cuddly way! They all storm off in tears to their safe spaces. Snowflake generation are very real.

[rustyjames]

Was listening to Rush Limbaugh

Theres the problem, far too many listen to this bombastic bozo.

Right, how dare I have my own opinion when the smart left can do my thinking for me. They know what's best, all I have to do is pay for it.

[sacharlie]

Right, how dare I have my own opinion when the smart left can do my thinking for me. They know what's best, all I have to do is pay for it.

Add the smart right in on doing the thinking for you, me and everyone. Both the smart left and smart right took us to war in Iraq both bailed out the wall street bankers with taxpayer money. Nothing is done without both the left and the right carring the game ball in the same direction; most of the time they take turns carring the ball just to throw us off.

You and I are paying, thats for sure. In the end my opinion costs me just as much as your opinion costs you.

[Sully]

Rusty, you have a few pretty far out there thoughts as well. As for your sister, she can be a million miles away and still be close to you. Someday you might be old enough to understand that there is always a sibling bond.

Why must she agree with you in any way? You seem to demand that allegiance! I do not agree with every liberal (left leaning) philosophy. But, I also agree less with the conservative, religious, right wingers.

The right to speak freely is not prevented by our government but by ordinary citizens who dislike the message, both right and left are equally responsible for this obscenity. This kind of friction is hardly new, but has been present since man has existed.

[rustyjames]

Sully, you certainly make a lot of assumptions about me and my Sister. She is the one who wants me to think like Her liberal self. Sorry, but there's really not much of anything in the liberal ideology that I can ascribe to. Of course I love my Sister, but I have to think like Her to? This is what Mr. B and myself keep trying to relate to you lib's, but you'll never get it. If you don't believe me just watch the news! I've got some bad news, there's a silent majority out the that have had enough. If the election of Mr. Trump doesn't spell it out, you're never going to see it.

"Elections have consequences; you're welcome to come along for the ride, but you'll have to sit in the back of the bus!" BHO

[Burgerman]

Add the smart right in on doing the thinking for you, me and everyone. Both the smart left and smart right took us to war in Iraq both bailed out the wall street bankers with taxpayer money. Nothing is done without both the left and the right carring the game ball in the same direction; most of the time they take turns carring the ball just to throw us off.

You and I are paying, thats for sure. In the end my opinion costs me just as much as your opinion costs you.

sacharlie, you missed the point again.
The right = free thinking, free choices in life, free trade (the capitalism and the freedom it brings) and is the only basis for free choices and free thought and freedom of speech.

The left, are generally liberals today much more so than the likes of the right or trumps lot ever are. And the more right you go the less "liberal" you have to be by definition. Which is why you have your Liberal Democrats, a lft/liberal group that are more socialist than than trumps lot. (the opposite to historical politics incidentally) So left means liberal political correctness, safe rooms in universities, disallowing "hate" speech and rioting to shut down anyone with an opinion. Or having any opinion that isn't all about the equality of religions, sexuality, race, colour etc.

So no "In the end my opinion costs me just as much as your opinion costs you" is false.
Because socialists/liberals are not allowed a view. They have to follow the politically correct line. Regardless of the facts, or testable evidence. And they think and try to make. ALL OF US think and act the same way. Dont like Hispanics for some very good reason? Dont like red haired people just because they look weird? Dont like jews because your (protected) Muslim religion says you shouldn't? The left/liberal types like students, over educated, elites, TV types, etc wont allow YOU to have any opinion that doesent make everyone equal or may upset someones sensibilities as its "wrong".

There isnt 2 sides here. Theres political correctness which is an attempt by a few to control everyone. And theres NOT THAT. Those are not equal or opposites.

[sacharlie]

Add the smart right in on doing the thinking for you, me and everyone. Both the smart left and smart right took us to war in Iraq both bailed out the wall street bankers with taxpayer money. Nothing is done without both the left and the right carring the game ball in the same direction; most of the time they take turns carring the ball just to throw us off.

You and I are paying, thats for sure. In the end my opinion costs me just as much as your opinion costs you.

sacharlie, you missed the point again.
The right = free thinking, free choices in life, free trade (the capitalism and the freedom it brings) and is the only basis for free choices and free thought and freedom of speech.

What you wrote above is the same bullshit that Rush Limbaugh is paid to say. Your talk is cheap. Come over here you might get paid.

The right will give you all that as long as you give over your money to em. The right works for the Plutocracy just as hard as the left; maybe more so on taxation. Ya see every time the right gives a tax break it always comes about in 2 ways. The 1% gets the biggest straight out tax reduction while the working middle class can never see a reduction in their tax dollars unless they 1st hand over their money, in the form of interest/insurance/royalty to the Plutocracy.

[Burgerman]

Your ignorance is showing again.
And who exactly do you suppose "pays him"? He can just see how things work, where you cant. Conspiracy theory nut much? Or do you have evidence? Thought not...

OK...
Without the right, and capitalism, and low business taxation, and so on, and without the ability to get rich and keep it, all the drive to build and run or expand or invest in businesses is gone. Removed. So you wouldn't HAVE any money, or a job to earn money TO give to "them"! Not that you do. (or any food, cars, heat etc). How do you GIVE to them? Why am I asking you never can answer.
You already pay a shitload less tax than your 1 percent regardless, as YOU yourself already admitted. But we know, you want them to help you even more, but won't tell us why.

Thats why you wont go live in Venezuela or Columbia, or any other non capitalist country where they do this stuff you so want. So your argument is one of simple both IGNORANCE and is a total contradiction! You are arguing to be poorer. And doing as you suggest is a good way to achieve that. One small step at a time until you ARE Venezuela so wont need to move. Redistribution of wealth is socialism, which does exactly this every time. As I already showed you in the past by example. LOTS of times. But your ignorance cant seem understand it.

You STILL think theses some fixed amount of money. Or wealth. And that taking even more from those with more than you have, to give to those like you will "even it all up". But there isn't. So it wont. And all that happens is you shrink the pot. And everyone is then poorer. As every last system ever tried has proven. To those on the right, this is obvious before you bother to bankrupt 40 or 50 countries to test. And have populations suffering for half a century at a time. But some are not capable of reasoned logical thinking. So keep "wanting" stuff, and cant show how that is going to work. Or show a SINGLE place where it has.

[Burgerman]

while the working middle class can never see a reduction in their tax dollars unless they 1st hand over their money, in the form of interest/insurance/royalty to the Plutocracy.

Yes well if you take two identical working families. And one invests in the future, invests in his own business, doesn't rent, doesn't borrow, buys well, and MANAGES his life in a conservative way, then he becomes the plutocracy you hate. And then you expect those people to pay more tax than you do in DOLLARS, so that you can live in better style than your income and daft expenditure on insurance and loans dictates. You take your choices and most people make stupid ones. If you happen to be less productive than a guy like say musk or whoever then thats not their problem. Its your own. And YOU benefit from these people in countless ways on top of the extra tax they pay directly and indirectly. Lets say one starts a bank. And lends you money for the house or car you cant afford through bad choices or being dumb as a brick. YOU chose to pay them. Nobody made you do that.

[shirley_hkg]

Being a neighbour to the US, you are allowed to live under her regime, and remain as a under developed country.

Now is Venezuela.
Greenland follows, and then Canada …