OMG!how prevent dog leash to stuck in the axle and solution

[yeshelp]

Hi
yesterday I was in a very delicate situation close to dangerous.

I had a tape( flat, not a cord) retractable leash that got stuck in the axle between the wheel bolting plate and the axle coming from the motor. I could not take it out. I had no knife, no fire, juste a head lamp. I had to lay on the wet ground trying to see how the tape is entangled. the dog was waiting. it was clement weather 0 or 1 celcius but i was still laying in slush . it was dark in a industrial street where no one comes by. i was in shi%. REALITY check! I finally found the way to pull it after 30 minutes out but it made me realise that this is a serious problem since it can get to minus 30 celcius here and there is is no help for me by the city. zero paid service . police is overloaded wich translante in you having to wait 2 or 3 hours with a dog that is getting frost bites . and maybe yourself.

OMG. i finally got free but now i want to prepare my self because it is geting colder and colder.

1 how can i prevent the leash to become entangled? there might be order-training made to the dog(wich would nequire another post) but for the moment i focus on technical material ways to help me prevent such an entanglement. Is there a protector that can be placed that stops the leash from being eaten by the axle?

2 if it does become entengled how can i lift quicky the chair enough to play with back forward to help me take it out? is there a thing to do that ?

3 would a retractable cord(like round shape) be more forgiving than a retractable tape leash?

Here is what i have atm . i use 2 hand pumps sort of medical hand pump for taking pressure in arm . i place 6 or 7 books under the pump wich lifts about 1.5 cm. then i use the other pump with 8 books to lift the chair from 1.5 cm . I have to repeat that scenario of highering towers one at the time gaining 1cm or so at the time . it is long , not easy and it asks me to CARRY about 20 books on my already over filled back of seatchair. frost bite come quick and i have limited support. Plus how would they help???

Is there a not to expensive lift or jack that can fit under the wheelchair to lift it up quickly? car jacks do not fit from my experience...

I do know there are some attachement for bikes that can be placed on the wheelchair but those are fixed rig with a fixed meter of leash. i need to sometime have the dog to walk in heel(3 to 4 feet), sometimes in relaxed walk(6 to 10 feet range) and also exploration walk to let him finally snif as much as he wants with 26 feet of leash. so atm i use a hand held retractable leash.

Maybe there is a way to use an attachementAND keep this freedom of deciding the leash lenght? i dont know it seems a fixed option.

all comments are welcomed . it is a situation that very little people encounter.

thanks

[Burgerman]

I use a chain, german shephard dog. Or did. Because otherwise I also get things wrapped around the axle... AC extensions, hose, pressure washer hose etc all the time!

Maybe keep a phone and knife with you.

Its why I use cordless tools, cordless mower etc. Maybe get a cordless dog?

[ex-Gooserider]

No experience w/ dog, but training is definitely likely to help... I also NEVER go anywhere without a good quality "multi-tool" - I use a Leatherman Wave, but there are other brands, and you will get 'religious arguments' about them... But get a good quality one, not "cheap Chinesium" - critical functions include a knife blade that will hold a good edge, and pliers...

Also have the "phone a friend" option available...

I suspect a round rope leash might be better than a flat ribbon, but either can be a problem.

I think I've seen discussions in the past where folks have suggested mounting a mast or pole on the back of the chair, and using a spring-loaded leash reel so that the leash is always held up off the ground so that it can't be run over.

Probably wouldn't hurt to have a spare leash in case you do end up having to cut your main one...

ex-Gooserider

[martin007]

My vote is for electrician's scissors.

I don't like to leave the house when it's cold.
I can stand the cold, but my hands become useless.

[yeshelp]

HI
I hear your options proposed .
I guess i have to get something to lift the chaire quick and then unentangle or cut it. I need to have hand held distance change possibilities.
Low profile jacks are 12 kg wich is heavy to carry and big. And could only be used with my higher chair because the low profile jacks are 3inch and third minimal height.
A device would help me with reparations quicker too.

Are there more portable device to lift the chair ? max 4 inches at minimum height.

my summer chair has 2inch and half clearance high . QUantum 6000z
My winter chair, with mud tires has 4 inches high clearance. quicky 646 se



if i get a jack like this big red AT825051BR . 21.3 cm large.
will this jack reach a place under the chair where it lifts it correctly to have the motor wheel not touching the ground or maybe it would not have place to go under. because it need a path to go under.
if there is something else than this kind of low profile jack I would surely consider it.

Thanks


https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0BFDF ... EEQB&psc=1

[scottnj@gmail.com]

When I walk my dog, I fasten the leash to my armrest. But I always keep my hand under the leash. He also likes to pull a little when we are going quicker which is a good thing, it helps keep the leash away from the wheels and we can feel what each other is doing. If he slows down, or stops, I can feel it in the leash and stop the chair so he doesn't get hurt. When going slow, he doesn't pull, so I keep tension on the leash by lifting up on it with my hand. He also knows that when I give a quick tug, he needs to go behind my chair to fit through doorways and other obstacles.

I have also found the length of the leash is important. If it's too long, it will definitely get tangled up in the chair. My leash has two handles. I walk him only on the shorter handle, I give him the full length only in safe situations.

This website has some good ideas like rings for different length and quick release options:

https://boldleaddesigns.com/shop/wheelchair-dog-leash-for-use-with-hook-attachment-quad-lead/
https://boldleaddesigns.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Wheelchair-Leash-Info-Packet-MASTER-r5-08-17-2020-kb.pdf

[biscuit]

Myself I would go prepared to sacrifice the leash with scissors. Wide webbing strip as a leash. Needs a dog that is ok with that kind of leash.
How to extract bits of dog lead from my chair's axles? A scissor jack weighs about 1.5kg and is about 8.5cm minimum and can lift a car. You could perhaps fit it under an anti tip wheel shaft.

[biscuit]

Keep the dog with you for warmth in an emergency.
Teach the dog to wear doggy boots for chilly walks.
Take a usb power brick, a usb heat mat and a foil blanket or two, they reflect heat, fold up tiny and spread out big.
It sounds dreadful. Stay home, have dog biscuits, hot chocolate and a cosy chair by the fireplace!

[LROBBINS]

Here's a photo of a jack I made from some scrap steel. The part that says "under chair" is placed under structure near the drive wheels and the long arm is pushed down so that it goes over center and the chair is raised.

[slomobile]

I've been in a similar situation. Required the help of 2 passers by.

For getting tire clearance, I have a 6" square, 3" tall block of very stiff polyurethane foam. It is just 1/4"(7mm) taller than the bottom of the chair. I cant wedge it in on its own, but with my cane, I can pry up on the base of the chair, assisted by the preloaded suspension, enough to get the block under. The wheels still touch the ground, but just barely. When placed in free wheel mode, I can rotate the tires by hand without the chair moving and the flat leash will pass under.

I just got lucky with the size. I had already cut a 6" block in half for a different purpose, and when I was looking around for something to hold the chair up while changing a caster tire, I found it was the perfect size.

Its a bit fiddley. You might want to cut your block slightly shorter so you can shove it under directly and use your hand pump to lift it the last centimeter. Search "air bag lifting tool" to find cheap setups similar to yours but able to lift higher in one stage.

[Burgerman]

Dynamite.

[yeshelp]

Myself I would go prepared to sacrifice the leash with scissors. Wide webbing strip as a leash. Needs a dog that is ok with that kind of leash.
How to extract bits of dog lead from my chair's axles? A scissor jack weighs about 1.5kg and is about 8.5cm minimum and can lift a car. You could perhaps fit it under an anti tip wheel shaft.

Hi
the 8.5 cm would do for the quickie but not for the quantum6000z... Im trying to find one that woud fit both. Do you know others? even .5 ton would do the job.

[yeshelp]

Keep the dog with you for warmth in an emergency.
Teach the dog to wear doggy boots for chilly walks.
Take a usb power brick, a usb heat mat and a foil blanket or two, they reflect heat, fold up tiny and spread out big.

good ideas!

[yeshelp]

Here's a photo of a jack I made from some scrap steel. The part that says "under chair" is placed under structure near the drive wheels and the long arm is pushed down so that it goes over center and the chair is raised.

jack.jpg

this invention cannot lock in place right? it is just to lift but does not stay in the air correct?

[Burgerman]

Yes it stays i the air. Its an over centre device.

[yeshelp]

I've been in a similar situation. Required the help of 2 passers by.

For getting tire clearance, I have a 6" square, 3" tall block of very stiff polyurethane foam. It is just 1/4"(7mm) taller than the bottom of the chair. I cant wedge it in on its own, but with my cane, I can pry up on the base of the chair, assisted by the preloaded suspension, enough to get the block under. The wheels still touch the ground, but just barely. When placed in free wheel mode, I can rotate the tires by hand without the chair moving and the flat leash will pass under.

I just got lucky with the size. I had already cut a 6" block in half for a different purpose, and when I was looking around for something to hold the chair up while changing a caster tire, I found it was the perfect size.

Its a bit fiddley. You might want to cut your block slightly shorter so you can shove it under directly and use your hand pump to lift it the last centimeter. Search "air bag lifting tool" to find cheap setups similar to yours but able to lift higher in one stage.

Hi so if I understand, you suggestion is to carry a polyurethane block instead of carrying books .Exact?
I already have this one at the bottom.

My experience is that it does not really lifts 3 inches. Would you know one that lifts a higher range?

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B073XL ... UTF8&psc=1

[yeshelp]

oups the air wedge link in the last post is not the good one here is the good one
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07VN8 ... UTF8&psc=1

Will fit gaps as small as 4mm/ 1/8” and will expand to 2.25”/ 57mm and support up to a 300lb. load.


do you know what is the maximum expand a airwedge can have?

[slomobile]

Airbag size need not be a limiting factor. The cheap lift bags are only 2 flat sheets sonic welded together, which raises a dome shape with less top surface area the higher it gets, so it gets much harder to pump as it lifts higher. If you want more height than they can do, you need something with a flat top and side panels designed for the height you need. Built the way an air mattress is https://www.matjack.com/ for example. A better pump will get you more height too. A small electric inflator can run off your chair charge port. Or a manual pump with a lever for mechanical advantage.

Yes, the foam simply replaces the books. But I just had a different idea. What if you put the foam under your powered footrest, could the footrest pushing down lift the chair up? Or anything around really, a cup maybe, or soda can.

[Burgerman]

You have to carry this stuff with you making most if it impractical and it wont ever get used or carried.

All you need do is have something sharp and cut it short. Leave it around the axle or whatever and it wont stop you driving. And do the hard untaffle/removal surgery stuff at home at your leasure later on.

I have done that with a mower cable, and while it was ON. It just tripped the breaker. And with a garden hose. And the rubber hose on my weed killer sprayer.

[Burgerman]

You have to carry this stuff with you making most if it impractical and it wont ever get used or carried.

All you need do is have something sharp and cut it short. Leave it around the axle or whatever and it wont stop you driving. And do the hard untaffle/removal surgery stuff at home at your leasure later on.

I have done that with a mower cable, and while it was ON. It just tripped the breaker. Not even a spark to be seen. And with a garden hose. And the rubber hose on my weed killer sprayer.

A bigger issue to me was that my DOG was stupid. He wanted to be the one all taffled up in his leash. But here they eventually learn how not to. And learn how to step out or over it.

[Burgerman]

I have a bag on my knee. Serves 2 purposes. Keeps my knees together. And keys, cash, verious medications, cards, extending magnetsm phone, etc. And an extremely useful knife!

These are on eBay or Amazon for 10 uk pounds and are very well made. In the UK we have knife laws too. This is not technically legal for normal people to carry. Since the blade locks open. That is unless you have a legitimate purpose for doing so. Well we do. I have been trapped in electrical wires, hoses, and all sorts of things over the last 27 years. This could be life threatening if you happen to be in a place where other people dont frequently go. So we have a valid argument to carry one legaly for the job of freeing yourself exactly as this thread describes.

I see it like this. Would you rather die from pressure sores or exposure or freeze to death. Or explain your circumstances to the judge...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CT2W5Q2

So I have one of these in that bag on my knee:

[yeshelp]

Here's a photo of a jack I made from some scrap steel. The part that says "under chair" is placed under structure near the drive wheels and the long arm is pushed down so that it goes over center and the chair is raised.

jack.jpg

Not sure how you can lift with that and leave it up in the air. Anyway i cannot solder nor cut metal but it is a nice piece of tool

[yeshelp]

Airbag size need not be a limiting factor. The cheap lift bags are only 2 flat sheets sonic welded together, which raises a dome shape with less top surface area the higher it gets, so it gets much harder to pump as it lifts higher. If you want more height than they can do, you need something with a flat top and side panels designed for the height you need. Built the way an air mattress is https://www.matjack.com/ for example. A better pump will get you more height too. A small electric inflator can run off your chair charge port. Or a manual pump with a lever for mechanical advantage.

Yes, the foam simply replaces the books. But I just had a different idea. What if you put the foam under your powered footrest, could the footrest pushing down lift the chair up? Or anything around really, a cup maybe, or soda can.

HI
I like the idea of having a more capable air lifter but the one in the link are $1,558.00. Do you know if there exists a mini version of them or similar?

My quickie 646 footrest are not functionnal and not sure they would endure that kind of lifting. I have no usb plug on my chair to charge usb stuff is this what you are talking about?

I do have 2 charmast power bank like that https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0BMQ5 ... =UTF8&th=1

[yeshelp]

You have to carry this stuff with you making most if it impractical and it wont ever get used or carried.

All you need do is have something sharp and cut it short. Leave it around the axle or whatever and it wont stop you driving. And do the hard untaffle/removal surgery stuff at home at your leasure later on.

I have done that with a mower cable, and while it was ON. It just tripped the breaker. And with a garden hose. And the rubber hose on my weed killer sprayer.

You are probably right that cut both end would allow to still ride but at 50 per retractable leash if i can quicky unentangled it would be usefull PLUS I am willing to invest a bit on a device that can lift the chaire because i would also then use it to change my tires and stuff without having to build 2 tower of the airwedge i have . It takes time to do so if the emergency device is not too expensive I might put that on my credit card knowing that it will serve me in the next years and save me time..

[yeshelp]

I have a bag on my knee. Serves 2 purposes. Keeps my knees together. And keys, cash, verious medications, cards, extending magnetsm phone, etc. And an extremely useful knife!

These are on eBay or Amazon for 10 uk pounds and are very well made. In the UK we have knife laws too. This is not technically legal for normal people to carry. Since the blade locks open. That is unless you have a legitimate purpose for doing so. Well we do. I have been trapped in electrical wires, hoses, and all sorts of things over the last 27 years. This could be life threatening if you happen to be in a place where other people dont frequently go. So we have a valid argument to carry one legaly for the job of freeing yourself exactly as this thread describes.

I see it like this. Would you rather die from pressure sores or exposure or freeze to death. Or explain your circumstances to the judge...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CT2W5Q2

So I have one of these in that bag on my knee:

I now carry a long kitchen knife sort of like a saw so that will be my knive

[yeshelp]

Keep the dog with you for warmth in an emergency.
Teach the dog to wear doggy boots for chilly walks.
Take a usb power brick, a usb heat mat and a foil blanket or two, they reflect heat, fold up tiny and spread out big.
It sounds dreadful. Stay home, have dog biscuits, hot chocolate and a cosy chair by the fireplace!

I am working on finding waterproof boots for the dog . waterproof to protect him from the salt and water containing salt dissolved.

I do have 2 charmast https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0BMQ5 ... =UTF8&th=1
would that be enough to power a heating pad?

Did you shop for heating pad and could recommande one that is big enough for a dog? all sorts of heating pads on amazon most wall pluged . The usb ones are rather small for boots of inside a jacket. It would help me to faster my buying if you have products to propose that would do the job.

About the aluminium foil . Have you ever used that with a dog? i guess we have to desentize him to it but how would you use it ?Just under him or wrapping him with it? i suspect that he would try to get out or just bite it to play ...

Those items are becoming very important since i had a joystick problem tonigh(i made a post about it) that again placed me in a situation of a immobile chair with a dog on my hands...

THanks

[LROBBINS]

If you take a look at the photo of the lever jack you will see that when the jack is pressed down to the ground the channel that fits under the chair is behind the forward contact point. It therefore presses the jack down. That's what's meant by over center (or centre for the brits).

[biscuit]

Well.... These are what I have.
Charmast Power Bank 30000mAh, 20W... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08Y6XBM8X? ... b_ap_share
USB Electric Cloth Heater Pad, DC... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BRD9SF98? ... b_ap_share
And emergency blankets, I forget where I got them.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08Y6XBM8X? ... b_ap_share

Apart from the heat pad I take these things for an emergency. I whinge about my wheelchair, but it is actually a very sound machine. Nonetheless I don't go out into weather<1⁰C or so and then not for more than about an hour.

I am considering the merits of motorbike leathers. Everyone else is walking, they stay a lot warmer than me. I sit on the heat pad. Usually I forget to turn it on. I have forgotten how I worked it out which to buy, but I bought a power bank which would keep the heat mat I bought at that time at medium heat for an hour or so.

There are breeds of dog that live in cold, they don't have heat mats. I would put a heat mat, me and the dog under an emergency blanket. But in fact I would be 100% sure never to let the emergency arise.

[biscuit]

Sorry, dead link from Amazon. They are tear resistant silver foil emergency blankets, a pack of 5 was less than £10. The sizes vary, those were about 2m x 1.5m iirc.

The dog comes with a built in fur coat so it is insulated against heat mats. Those are for you! The dog can also generate you a tiny bit of heat if you're both under the same emergency blanket with no heat loss.

Yeah I see your post. Scary stuff! or
fix up your chair first.

[yeshelp]

Well.... These are what I have.
Charmast Power Bank 30000mAh, 20W... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08Y6XBM8X? ... b_ap_share
USB Electric Cloth Heater Pad, DC... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BRD9SF98? ... b_ap_share
And emergency blankets, I forget where I got them.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08Y6XBM8X? ... b_ap_share

Apart from the heat pad I take these things for an emergency. I whinge about my wheelchair, but it is actually a very sound machine. Nonetheless I don't go out into weather<1⁰C or so and then not for more than about an hour.

I am considering the merits of motorbike leathers. Everyone else is walking, they stay a lot warmer than me. I sit on the heat pad. Usually I forget to turn it on. I have forgotten how I worked it out which to buy, but I bought a power bank which would keep the heat mat I bought at that time at medium heat for an hour or so.

There are breeds of dog that live in cold, they don't have heat mats. I would put a heat mat, me and the dog under an emergency blanket. But in fact I would be 100% sure never to let the emergency arise.

how satisfied are you of the USB Electric Cloth Heater Pad ? they are ranked 3 stars only on amazon and what i found are very small surface area. How big are they ?

I have found sort of large heating device on amazon search but zero ranking .Not much info .

it is to put under the dog while I lift and untangle the cord. I dress for heavy cold for me .

2 large sort of without ranking
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0BMT9 ... U6QSK&th=1
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0DCBR ... WQK1O&th=1