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Postby martin007 » 09 Feb 2025, 17:16

He!

I just received the new powerchair.

> https://www.sunrisemedical.eu/powered-w ... airs/rumba

Now I feel weird.
It will continue...
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Re: New Powerchair

Postby Burgerman » 09 Feb 2025, 19:47

Why would you feel weird?
Its good. Your old one was ancient!
Now you need a woody cable.
I recieved and modified or bought and sold at least 20 so far! New, used, in parts, basket case ones, etc.
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Re: New Powerchair

Postby martin007 » 09 Feb 2025, 20:06

Burgerman wrote:Why would you feel weird?
Its good. Your old one was ancient!


I feel weird about the armrests and footrests.

Burgerman wrote:Now you need a woody cable.


I'm planning to make a cable...

Burgerman wrote:I recieved and modified or bought and sold at least 20 so far! New, used, in parts, basket case ones, etc.


Powerchairs?
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Re: New Powerchair

Postby Burgerman » 09 Feb 2025, 20:15

Yes.

Arms and footrest come off if you dont want to use them. :hammer
With every chair it needs to be physically changed, adjusted to suit your needs. Can be easy, can be hard, can need a saw and a welder, a drill, or just some simple tools. All depends on your wants and needs. And programming...
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Re: New Powerchair

Postby Raro » 09 Feb 2025, 22:04

It takes a while to adjust everything but the most important thing is to be comfortable that the chair adapts to you and not you to it, it gives you more security, stability, confidence...
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Re: New Powerchair

Postby Burgerman » 09 Feb 2025, 22:31

I view every new chair as a sort of blank canvas. I try to get the blank canvas ordered to give me the best starting point. Most rehab chairs have an order sheet that has more choices than you can imagine.

Then I make the blank canvas into a clone of the other chairs I have regarding the exact positions of all seating dimensions and angles and C of G. Then match the programming, joystick positions, etc.

In the end they all feel and drive much the same as each other.
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Re: New Powerchair

Postby Jay_x » 13 Feb 2025, 18:12

Interesting, I am almost sure this is not available in the US. You are liking it so far?
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Re: New Powerchair

Postby Flagmax » 13 Feb 2025, 21:14

Raro wrote:It takes a while to adjust everything but the most important thing is to be comfortable that the chair adapts to you and not you to it, it gives you more security, stability, confidence...

Words of wisdom!

I will also add that we do unlearn the old chair and learn the new one. Perhaps within 2 to 3 weeks of using it, it should start to feel natural and predictable. This is only after it was properly setup/programmed for you.
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Re: New Powerchair

Postby Burgerman » 14 Feb 2025, 03:48

I will also add that we do unlearn the old chair and learn the new one. Perhaps within 2 to 3 weeks of using it, it should start to feel natural and predictable. This is only after it was properly setup/programmed for you.


Absolutely not!!!
Its true that this is what actually happens. With maybe 99% of users.

But its plain wrong. YOU should not learn a chair. Or unlearn an old one. It should be completely adapted to you.
ALL of my 5 or 6 current chairs are totally indistinguishable from each other to sit in and drive. All identical feeling. In spite of all being different brands and models.

Because I order the options correctly, then :hammer adjust each chair to suit ME properly. In every way. Every seating position/parameter.
That means CG position so each rear drive chair lifts its front caster wheels at the same tip angles and rates of acceleration.

Each has "exactly" the same seat depth/width, seat dump angle, leg angle and leg length, foot position/angle, seat cushion width, same arm top position, same arm top width, same joystick position in 3 dimensions so that I can cup the side with my hand and steer with a stable reference point with finger and thumb. Identically across all chairs to where I decide. Same backrest angles, and headrest position, chop off all extremities of metalwork like headrest mounting brackets, same centre footplate mount, same foorplate feet angle.

And the programming configured to feel *exactly* identical between all chairs at all speeds. Same torque, same accelerations on turn, etc. Same feel in every way. Exactly how I decide. Identical. In some cases cloned programming, in others minor differences to give same feel.

You can drop me blindfolded into any one of these varied powerchairs and I would be hard pressed to tell any difference without actually looking at it. They all drive, feel, and work in the same totally predictable identical way.

If you are needing to "learn" a chair, or unlearn one then you didnt configure it properly yet.
If that takes a drill, to adjust seat dump angle, or a saw to make something correct like joystick position or arm positioning or a frew spacers, etc then it just does. Mostly it needs a little creative thinking and rejigging. Takes a day to a week to do. May need some new parts or minor fabrication to get there.

Remember that if you need to adjust yourself to learn a chair then you have failed.
And if its not possible to make them feel the same or exactly how you want it then you ordered the wrong options or the wrong chair in the first place.
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