Wheelchair Services

[Burgerman]

Both my OT and WCS were obliged to use NRS services for all mobility equipment.

No. They CHOOSE to do that. That one of their own internally made up rules they are so fond of hiding behind and one of the things that you should ignore.

The reason the economy is up the creek is simple.
Wealth isnt money.
The ability to pay for the SMALL government we need, and the FEW services that government should be providing comes from production.
We have had consecutive governments that all do the same wealth destroying things since thatcher.
They all grew the size of the state. The state produce nothing and that has to be paid for. By ever increasing tazation of everything and every body.

The things business needs to make this wealth, is simple. It needs a free hand to hire and fire, to allow the price of labour and goods, and srvices to be controlled by an unlegislated low tax free market. It needs low costs, such as property, (destroyed by allowing 10 million immigrants to enter over the last 20 years), low cost fuel and transport which for an island of coal and gas, floating in a sea of gas and oil should be simple. And it needs the stability and long term low interest rates and no interference by governments.

Right now, anyone with any money, is either leaving the country, or moving their money to places where they can invest it safely. Certainly not here. That means the useless labour government are doing everything possible to chase all the succssful people the ones that invest, that start or grow businesses, that employ the rest of the non entrapreneurs, away. No business people want to employ anyone. They actually cant! They can afford all the pension, time off, inability to fire anyone, ever increasing rules ond minimum wages, and so they dont. Open a new factory to grow your business? No, cant afford the taxes, the fuel, the rules, the employees, so do it in china. America. Wherever. So no taxes from them. No income from the sales of production. No wealth created. Tax the people ever more to pay for immigrants, and everything else. And we cant afford to put the lights on. Never mind buy a new/sofa/car/bathroom/toaster/boiler/etc. So no money for our own businesses either.

This is the result of socialism. Large state, planned economy, many rules and taxes, employment rules, green rules, etc.Socialist results in failure every single last time it has ever been tried. Always. For obvious reasons. The richest countries are the most capitalist, the most free. The opposite is also true.

So fixing it i simple.
Tell the communist EU to get lost.
Sack 80% of the civil servants.
Drill oil, on land and sea. Frack gas and take it from the seas. Mine coal and rebuild all the cheapest coal powerplants we ever had. SELL the excess oil, coal, gas, to the rest of the world for £££ as they do not have these advantages.
Dump most of the employment rules.
Drop taxes for everybody. Especially the rich, and businesses. Become a tax haven and a place that businesses will flock to because of cheap crporation taxes. Right on the EUs doorstep.
Ban all the woke nonsense and police crime properly not tweets. Deport all ilegal immigrants on day one and all the ones already here as soon as possible.
And tell the french to get lost and take back our fish, our seas, our laws, and our country including northern ireland.
Stop harrasing motorists, and dump all net zero nonsense. Deport sadiq khan. Ban and lock up all the lefty anti israel protestors. All the pro hamas, green hair climate, ring in nose, sandal wearing left wing idiots. Arrest them every time they cause trouble. Not one or two. All of them. Same with all our laws that they currently ignore.

Give it a decade or two.
It takes decades to build a prosperous well behaved society and is safe and stable. It takes weeks to destroy it.

And no its not a conspiracy, they really are as thick as they appear.

[JohnnyUK]

I couldn't agree more about our ailing economy, don't forget the rest of the western world did the same thing ... at the same time. Our Conservative party have the same policies as Labour they are indeed a Uniparty, they also crashed the economy from 2019 on.

The thing I disagree with is that any power resides with these politicians. They are merely actors which explains why they're as thick as shite. It's an illusion, bankers give the orders politicians sell these as policies to the public. We don't need politicians, we need to avoid the controls imposed by central banks otherwise it will be a totalitarian state. Have you seen the latest plans for restrictions with how we access OUR money from next January? All part of Agenda 2030

[JohnnyUK]

So fixing it i simple.
Tell the communist EU to get lost.
Sack 80% of the civil servants.
Drill oil, on land and sea. Frack gas and take it from the seas. Mine coal and rebuild all the cheapest coal powerplants we ever had. SELL the excess oil, coal, gas, to the rest of the world for £££ as they do not have these advantages.
Dump most of the employment rules.
Drop taxes for everybody. Especially the rich, and businesses. Become a tax haven and a place that businesses will flock to because of cheap crporation taxes. Right on the EUs doorstep.
Ban all the woke nonsense and police crime properly not tweets. Deport all ilegal immigrants on day one and all the ones already here as soon as possible.
And tell the french to get lost and take back our fish, our seas, our laws, and our country including northern ireland.
Stop harrasing motorists, and dump all net zero nonsense. Deport sadiq khan. Ban and lock up all the lefty anti israel protestors. All the pro hamas, green hair climate, ring in nose, sandal wearing left wing idiots. Arrest them every time they cause trouble. Not one or two. All of them. Same with all our laws that they currently ignore.

I agree with your ideas on what we need to do to rebuild the economy, seems like common sense to me. However I don't agree with that pro Israeli anti Palestinian distraction, it's off topic at best. We need to reinvest in value adding activities which can only be done by growing or making real things. Ensure energy is cheap, invest heavily in Manufacturing!!! We used to be good at it but chose to transfer these skills to competitors by outsourcing to gain the benefits of cheap labour. We gave away out critical competencies and now we don't have many engineers capable of regenerating, but that's what we need to do. Make things rather than buying them in, free up the innovators and train the workforce

[Burgerman]

What we do now is we BUY everything in. Make nothing. Not even fuel. So we send all our wealth to other countries. And get ever poorer and wonder why.

We used to be good at it but chose to transfer these skills to competitors by outsourcing to gain the benefits of cheap labour.

There IS no benefit.

Its like living on a farm with coal, oil, metals, lots of workers, and making, growing, mining nothing. And buying everything from your neiboring farms. They ge rich. You get poor.

Borders, close them. Return all illegals back to wherever they want to go.
Gas, coal, oil, nuclear go big guns, SELL it to all those that do not have any for profit to allow us to have free energy. That means we all have more money to spend on goods made HERE! That we can now sell competitively for profit to others.
Tell the EU to leave our fish alone.
Add tarrifs to all manufactured goods, but not raw materials.
Stop handing out benefits to anyone fit enough to work.
Strong military, strong laws, strong policing, lots of new prisons.
Fire all the lefty state. Dump all the quangos.
Take US style bill of rights and free speech.
Retake london. Arrest sadiq khan for all the destructive treasonous anto british crap. And those like him.
Pro israel, they are doing ALL of us a huge favour as we are next.
Ban islam in britain.
Vote me.

[JohnnyUK]

If you can get that lot past the Deep State mafia I'm voting Burgerman

[Burgerman]

Job 1.
Interveiw the deep state at least the entire civil service, councils, etc with people that think like me. Fire all those that disagree.

In the NEL council, we have a SINGLE Reform leader. And 35 conservative, labour, green etc. He stood up, and proposed that we house homeless millitary veterans ahead of illegal migrants , by giving them priority. All he needed was someone to 2nd this, to put it to a vote. He is 19. Nothing, he begged, asked, stood up for 10 solid minutes. Not a single other North Eas Lincs councilor would 2nd his proposal.

Thats absolutely discusting.
1.35.0 point onwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF8J1Bk97Yc


youtu.be/vF8J1Bk97Yc

[Burgerman]

Back on topic!
Manufacturers, WCS, Dealers and Techs.

I DONT THINK THAT you, or anyone that gets a chair really understands quite how incompetant the WCS or dealers or techs really are.

On a scale of 1 to 10, and if I say that I am 10 on my own scale, then I honestly wouldnt see any dealer/tech I ever met, above a 3, most are 1 or 2 at best. And the UK wheelchair services definitely below a 1. They talk the talk, have lots of forms and excuses and THINK they know! But are completely hopeless and quite literally dont understand the glossy brovhures never mind complex configuration or programming. The chair manufacturers reps from the big manufacturers (assemblers) are very variable. Up to a 4. Dont hold your breath.

Theres the odd exception. Like Rover on here. ONE guy I spoke to at invacare after weeks of calls over their brushless fiasco. But good luck finding one! I have met dozens over thee last 27 years, been to many trade and public shows, spoke in depth with manufacturers like invacare and sunrise tech departments. Trust me 99% of their staff REALLY do not have a clue.

And you think that they are going to ASSESS, order correctly, configure and program your chair?

Mobility Shops job? To take as much money as possible. Mostly by means of them taking advantage of your ignorance.
WCS job? To pretend they are "assessing" you as the experts, push a lot of paper and rules and other time wasting regulations at you that THEY INVENTED in order to find a way to refuse anything expensive or a chair at all. To spend as little money as possible in order that their departments budget - that includes their wages - is protected.

[JohnnyUK]

All those puppets at that NELC meeting and not one seconder, what an utter disgrace!! All for fear of sticking their head above the parapet and risking being called a racist (or terrorist)

Excellent rating system putting WCS skills into perspective as I'm currently experiencing. 1/10 is generous

[Burgerman]

Yes. I told you by email a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

All those puppets at that NELC meeting and not one seconder, what an utter disgrace!! All for fear of sticking their head above the parapet and risking being called a racist (or terrorist)

Its totally discusting. I have written them a letter... Its not pretty.
Same morons as the ones in parliment that want to recognise "palastine"... A place that has no borders, country, laws, government, or anything else apart from a need to wipe israel off the map, followed by us. All of them are morons. They may as well recognise narnia. Its equally valid.

[JohnnyUK]

NRS will be out of business from the end of this month. Going to cause some issues for sure.

Spot on with your prediction Rover they're in receivership already. Millbrook Healthcare have stepped in to provide 'temporary' cover while other contenders for the WCS contract are considered.

I have it on good authority that most/all of NRS staff from my branch were simply transferred to Millbrook so nothing changes, the same lefty faces stagnating in the same positions that caused NRS to go bust in the first place. That's the world of big business, it's mainly smoke and mirrors ... ethics don't matter anymore.

[Burgerman]

The problem we have in the wheelchair industry is 3 fold.

1. its generally paid for and chosen by a socialist system that hasnt a clue that chooses the lowest tender £££.
2. they employ anyone in the NHS regardless of skills or interest or natural ability or enthusiasm. I met a few. Truly zombies. So do the mobility dealers you see in the high streets. They aare really only interested in selling something.
3. anyone that has a natural aptitude for engineering, has a high IQ, that has the drive and enthusiasm and experience is not attracted to the mobility industry as its just not sexy. You find them working in aerospace, race cars, computers, hobby stuff etc. Wheelchairs are just not exiting enough and the pay is low.

That doesent mean there are not some that are interested, keen, knowlegable. But pretty damned hard to find. Its like winning the lottery. If you find one be nice!

That all means that YOU should be able to understand this stuff yourself. If only to "guide" the experts to get the right stuff ordered, fixed etc. Or to just help yourself. If not then you are going to be one of the millions that suffer.

[steves1977uk]

NRS will be out of business from the end of this month. Going to cause some issues for sure.

Oh dear, my hoists are serviced by NRS although their techs are absolutely useless. Also I'm waiting to be assessed by an OT for another profiling bed like my ScanBed 700.

They did give me another bed but it hurts my hips and bum since it doesn't go up'n'down under my legs. Guess it'll be a while!

Steve

[JohnnyUK]

Oh dear, my hoists are serviced by NRS although their techs are absolutely useless

Don't worry I'm assured all the crappy techs from NRS have been lucky enough to secure a job with Millbrook who have taken over the WCS and hoists contract. So it's all the same old socialist faces hiding behind their protective shield of rules and regs to scupper the proles.

Millbrook told me yesterday that hoists are their lowest priority at present. They have a duty of care across a range of contracted services so that's just bs, I've challenged them to justify this decision

[Burgerman]

They are a private company. They can do exactly as they wish. Its the people that contracted them, that tell them, pay them, that organise the contracts and care that are the incompetant ones you need to question.

This is the problem you get when you put non business people, socialistic NHS or civil servants, in charge. They have no clue how to do this stuff. Take the labour party currently destroying our economy. They have not got a single person in the cabinet that ever ran a business, made any money, employed a person. They came out of marxist cloning educational system fully woked up and left wing and took a career in either the media, the civil service, political "work", etc. And just like every socialist government in the last century will eventually screw up the economy and country as soon as they run out of other peoples money.

[steves1977uk]

https://www.rcot.co.uk/latest-news/refl ... Healthcare

Also today a chap turned up who was "supposed" to service my hoists. He came in and my Brother told him where the bedroom hoist was as I was in the bath at the time, he said I'm here to install 2m of track with a drill in his hand. My Brother said no, you are supposed to be servicing the hoists. They both looked at each other and then the chap checked his iPhone and basically said Nope, I can't do that and then left. He was here about a minute in total and even admitted NRS are useless.

Steve

[Burgerman]

Theres nothing to actually service though. Its not needing oil, filters, plugs, pads, air con top up, valve clearances, cam belt swap...

All he had to do was LOOK at it make sure it was working and no damage or corrosion. 10 seconds. Its not like they test battery or anything. The socialist NHS exists only to make rules, beurocratic nonsense, and to pay their own wages while doing as little as possible.

[JohnnyUK]

He was here about a minute in total and even admitted NRS are useless

I got a priority visit yesterday from Millbrook using the same 'engineer' who commissioned my new chair for NRS, he apologised for not having the Millbrook clothing to wear on this visit . On arrival I asked where his laptop was (callout was for re-programming chair without gyro) and was told they haven't got a laptop because NRS said it was theirs and took it off them ... that's it! No contingency plans they just give up. I'm told I'll have to wait until they get their laptop back. Unbelievable

My new Q300R had become uncontrollable, I asked them to ignore the gyro, to disable it in program but no they had to sort the gyro regardless of my instructions. The gyro was thrown in battery box unrestrained, I pointed this out to the first engineer who said he had no idea what a gyro was so couldn't comment on installation. Two weeks later the expert without a laptop fitted the gyro onto the pre-made mounting point with a screw, this was a serious safety issue IMO. I asked the engineer who was responsible for this error and he blamed Sunrise, I asked him if it was his responsibility to do the Pre Delivery Inspection and he said it wasn't. WCS don't give a damn, it's never their fault

Fortunately Burgerman has offered his support, we're just having a few difficulties with me understanding basic programming procedures but getting there slowly

Also today a chap turned up who was "supposed" to service my hoists

At least you've got the hoists installed, what a game though. I guess by 'servicing' they mean inspecting them. Sorry to hear you experienced yet another system foul up

I've been told by Millbrook this week that they're in chaos after NRS' hasty exit. It's so bad they're having to relegate hoists to their 'least important' category so there will be a long long wait for any new installations. This is a senior manager not some dude in Reception. I reminded her that they have a duty of Care to provide me with this equipment to which she retorted they'll just put a Care Plan in place that requires a carer and a Patient Lift. I told her that I had insisted on single use hoists/slings from the get go, her OT and myself have spent the past 6 months planning to get this gear all in place prior to my impending leg amputation. So there ya go, once again the only way to get timely installations is to pay for it. Can anyone recommend a UK hoist supplier?

[Burgerman]

However, they will have had days of meetings, panels, lessons etc in diversity and inclusion. Organised as a way to get more meetings, more cake, coffee, and self made "rules" and beurocracy. By their 220k per year diversity officers. I kid you not. Had a nurse ask me if I could be pregnant last year. And she wasnt refering to my weight. Which would at least have been funny. I didnt dignify it with a reply. Other than take a guess.