Quickie Q700 Sedeo Seating system

[walksonwheels76]

My wife has a quickie q700 with the sedeo seating system. It elevates, tilts reclines and the foot plates also elevate and retract. For the second time in two years with this chair the elevate motor has gone bad. We know we need a new motor. My question is the chair right now is slightly elevated which makes her seat recline function only work one way. It is currently reclined all the way back, normally the seat back will not return to the upright position if the seat is elevated, so we are assuming that is why the seat back won't return to the upright position. The chair is currently unusable in this state. Does anyone know of any way to get the seat back upright either manually or bypassing the sensor which is keeping the back from returning to the upright position. We have just ordered parts to fix the elevate but who knows how long that will take. She relies on this chair and cannot use it at all the moment. Any help or ideas would be appreciated!

[Burgerman]

Sounds very odd.

I have a REAR DRIVE Q700 one. Now I know that I have played with its programming but my recline works regardless of seat elevate.

But I just looked in the programming. There are some inhibits (speed limits on the chair) but non on the actuators. All functions should work independently. Unless yours is different.

I suspect you have a connection or actuator issue. Could be wrong.


If you are at this angle and the back wont go up, its likely that it hasnt enough power for whatever reason.

[Yennek]

My wife has a quickie q700 with the sedeo seating system. It elevates, tilts reclines and the foot plates also elevate and retract. For the second time in two years with this chair the elevate motor has gone bad. We know we need a new motor. My question is the chair right now is slightly elevated which makes her seat recline function only work one way. It is currently reclined all the way back, normally the seat back will not return to the upright position if the seat is elevated, so we are assuming that is why the seat back won't return to the upright position. The chair is currently unusable in this state. Does anyone know of any way to get the seat back upright either manually or bypassing the sensor which is keeping the back from returning to the upright position. We have just ordered parts to fix the elevate but who knows how long that will take. She relies on this chair and cannot use it at all the moment. Any help or ideas would be appreciated!

Assuming you have the Sedeo Light or Pro seating (and not the Advanced), you might try temporarily swapping around the connectors on the ISM between something that works, (maybe footrest elevate?), and the backrest and see if that can get it moved back to a usable position. Depending on the programming, the current limits for the footrest might be set way lower than the backrest, so probably best to do it with the chair unoccupied so you don't accidently trip the overcurrent protection.

Option 2, if you are more electrically handy is to just jumper the recline motor directly to 24v to get it back to where it needs to be.

[Burgerman]

My question is the chair right now is slightly elevated which makes her seat recline function only work one way.

That part was bothering me. Why? I seemed to remember something odd about the recline on my Q700R. Its not a chair I am currently using. So not familiar with it.

Can you send me your settings profile?

[walksonwheels76]

Hey thanks for the reply,

to answer your question. Yes the seat back will not return to the upright position. It will continue to recline but not return if that makes sense. She says that even when the seating system is working properly if she is elevated at all the seat will recline but in order for her to bring the seat back, back up she has to return to the all the way down position on the seat elevation. How do I get the settings for you? I do have a programmer but not sure how to download the settings from it?

[Burgerman]

Just grab it from the chair, save to desktop. And attach to a post.

I dont know why it does that but I remember that mine dis it too. And I cant see anyplace in programming that causes that. So I dont get it. Maybe hardwired via a microswitch between lift and recline. But I do not see the point of it. What would it achieve?

[walksonwheels76]

My wife has a quickie q700 with the sedeo seating system. It elevates, tilts reclines and the foot plates also elevate and retract. For the second time in two years with this chair the elevate motor has gone bad. We know we need a new motor. My question is the chair right now is slightly elevated which makes her seat recline function only work one way. It is currently reclined all the way back, normally the seat back will not return to the upright position if the seat is elevated, so we are assuming that is why the seat back won't return to the upright position. The chair is currently unusable in this state. Does anyone know of any way to get the seat back upright either manually or bypassing the sensor which is keeping the back from returning to the upright position. We have just ordered parts to fix the elevate but who knows how long that will take. She relies on this chair and cannot use it at all the moment. Any help or ideas would be appreciated!

Assuming you have the Sedeo Light or Pro seating (and not the Advanced), you might try temporarily swapping around the connectors on the ISM between something that works, (maybe footrest elevate?), and the backrest and see if that can get it moved back to a usable position. Depending on the programming, the current limits for the footrest might be set way lower than the backrest, so probably best to do it with the chair unoccupied so you don't accidently trip the overcurrent protection.

Option 2, if you are more electrically handy is to just jumper the recline motor directly to 24v to get it back to where it needs to be.

So the footrest elevate works properly, how would I go about swapping those connections? Are they under the seat?

[Yennek]

So the footrest elevate works properly, how would I go about swapping those connections? Are they under the seat?

Yes. Look for a box similar to the one front and center in the picture below. The "Ax" ports are the ones controlling the actuators. Unfortunately I don't know which ones got to which actuator. The "Ix" ports are hooked up to the inhibit switches, and depending on how they are hooked up, disconnecting them may make it think the seat is no longer elevated. Or it might think the seat is always elevated. I don't know.

But I am also confused by the recline inhibit function. My wife's Q300m had the inhibit working the opposite way. She could only recline (or tilt) if she wasn't elevated, which made sense if you were worried about the chair being tipsy. And it also wouldn't let you elevate if you were tilted/reclined too much.

[shirley_hkg]

The inhibit is doing the opposite as it suppose to be.

She is using a switch box. Could the direction of actuator be reversed in programming ?

[Burgerman]

Just tested mine. Well my carer has. Its in a different room and I am stuck on bed at the monent. It (apparently) does the same thing. And yes its stupid!

And there is no sign of it in the programming that I can see. So how or why its doing that baffles me. Yes swap the channels around in the ISM6L

See here:




Heres two...
One with wires/loom. One without.
The wires are labled.
Plug the RECLINE into say TILT or FOOTREST socket temporarily.

[Burgerman]

https://industrial.curtisswright.com/si ... 981-14.pdf

Go to page 46. Full diagram and ISM6L connection details and numbers. Super easy. When wiring a chair I go to this drawing!

Then. In programming you can see which actuator function plugs into which of the 6 actuator channels. On mine for e.g RECLINE is on channel 1. So your will likely be the same, check in programming. so plug it into something else and test...

E.G:

This shows you which channel number which actuator is connected to.
In RED arrows it shows that RECLINE actuator is function 1, channel 1, and the picture shows the back of the chair.

In GREEN it shows how to reverse that function. This may be a very fast way to fix it...
Now I dont know how they are stopping it come up as it doesent seem to exist in programming. But UNTICKING that box will make the back work in the opposite sense. So it MIGHT come UP. (But not go back down low again...???) Test that first because it may save having to move any wires/plugs.