PINNED - PROGRAMMING - Make it steer! R-Net + others

[rover220]

do you have good head control, they gyroset is great but you need good repeatable movements to get the best from it.

[duke1]

hi all has anyone have experience of this new system on the invacare range?
can we alter it easy or not
https://invacarelinx.com/edo-en/#easy-to-personalise

[Irving]

hi all has anyone have experience of this new system on the invacare range?
can we alter it easy or not
https://invacarelinx.com/edo-en/#easy-to-personalise

Don't know of anyone who has it. Looks like it follows a bus-like system similar to R-Net but how open it is remains to be seen...

[steves1977uk]

I'm guessing it's a rebrand of the locked down Dynamic LiNX system, best to avoid at all costs!

Steve

[steves1977uk]

Actually I turned down a powerchair from Norwich WCS, because guess what they supply... Yep, you guessed it, Invacare chairs with the Dynamic LiNX system which is locked down to hell!

Steve

[duke1]

for replies well maybe i shall have to bribe the wcs dude to reprogram it if i slip him a few sheckles good job its only for indoors/hospitals just so they dont throw it out as she was quite cross! happy hols all

[Burgerman]

several issues. One they wont do it. And dont have a clue how to make it steer. And they are all jobsworths. Run away. You want r-net. You dont want any invacare modern chairs they all have the same problem. Which means they are useless. Its all locked down unless THEY fix it. Rover may help.

[steves1977uk]

ISTR Rover mentioning he couldn't get a powerchair with the LiNX control system to steer properly, because there was no way to unlock the OEM settings. Basically Dynamic/Invacare wants to lock down their system as much as possible so it seems.

I'm avoiding any powerchair that comes with the crappy LiNX setup and go for a chair with R-net.

Steve

[terry2]

Hey guys.

Can someone who has the new large screen controller tell me if the profile button can go up and down the profiles please.

Like on my old DX2 I could go 1-2-3-4-5 or 5-4-3-2-1

On my new R-Net system. It won't go down. So I have to stop, then cycle through the profiles.

Thanks

[rover220]

Hey guys.

Can someone who has the new large screen controller tell me if the profile button can go up and down the profiles please.

Like on my old DX2 I could go 1-2-3-4-5 or 5-4-3-2-1

On my new R-Net system. It won't go down. So I have to stop, then cycle through the profiles.

Thanks

no the right speed paddle can only adjust speed if the parameter is enabled in programming. profiles only step up not down regardless of programming.

[duke1]

several issues. One they wont do it. And dont have a clue how to make it steer. And they are all jobsworths. Run away. You want r-net. You dont want any invacare modern chairs they all have the same problem. Which means they are useless. Its all locked down unless THEY fix it. Rover may help.

see you need the right sort of bribe! delivered and basic reprogram and my tina took it down to the park and back then manoevered through the house passed the other chairs and says it steers fine now and adequate for hospitals and indoors at home and maybe if she has no other choice round to local shop might be ok,still silly sticky out corner smashers and sloppy meccano swingaway but there coming back to change it to a fixed one,there seems to be no mounting points for a centre footplate and she will have to get used to the extra set of casters,crash,crash, another hole in a door or wall
the hardest bit will be not being allowed to modify it!
and yes whilst the so called wheelchair therapist understands little of the real important things he did listen and said that i obviously knew more about the chair than he did and his knowledge of the program is limited to dealer so only basics but enough given the right bribe to make it steer,some people will not be bribed with money or but a little wacky baccy goes a long way!

[steves1977uk]

yes whilst the so called wheelchair therapist understands little of the real important things he did listen and said that i obviously knew more about the chair than he did and his knowledge of the program is limited to dealer so only basics but enough given the right bribe to make it steer,some people will not be bribed with money or but a little wacky baccy goes a long way!

But there's your problem, the tech won't be able to improve the steering because the values are locked in the OEM settings, unless you can convince Invacare to give you the OEM tools you need to be able to set it up correctly. Or tell WCS you're going to retrofit a PGDT control system that will allow you to set it up properly, ignore their BS rules and modify it like BM did back in 1997.

Steve

[duke1]

yes whilst the so called wheelchair therapist understands little of the real important things he did listen and said that i obviously knew more about the chair than he did and his knowledge of the program is limited to dealer so only basics but enough given the right bribe to make it steer,some people will not be bribed with money or but a little wacky baccy goes a long way!

But there's your problem, the tech won't be able to improve the steering because the values are locked in the OEM settings, unless you can convince Invacare to give you the OEM tools you need to be able to set it up correctly. Or tell WCS you're going to retrofit a PGDT control system that will allow you to set it up properly, ignore their BS rules and modify it like BM did back in 1997.

Steve

hi steves well she is happy enough with the way it steers and thats the main thing theres def no delays in steering now its ok.
just glad she is not forced to use it full time she is def more comfortable with the old gunter meire chair for outdoors and i shall fix the mudmonster soon it ate its lefthand cush drive but not surprised as she has tortured it proper rough of roading sure does that! allegedly wcs only allowed dealer status re programming which seems daft but normal for here.i think she would kill me if i start taking the grinder to the wcs chair but its tempting,those awful footrests be first for the bin!!!!!!!

[rover220]

yes whilst the so called wheelchair therapist understands little of the real important things he did listen and said that i obviously knew more about the chair than he did and his knowledge of the program is limited to dealer so only basics but enough given the right bribe to make it steer,some people will not be bribed with money or but a little wacky baccy goes a long way!

But there's your problem, the tech won't be able to improve the steering because the values are locked in the OEM settings, unless you can convince Invacare to give you the OEM tools you need to be able to set it up correctly. Or tell WCS you're going to retrofit a PGDT control system that will allow you to set it up properly, ignore their BS rules and modify it like BM did back in 1997.

Steve

I fear you are forgetting not all are as capable as BM when it comes to modding or retrofitting control systems.

[Burgerman]

hi steves well she is happy enough with the way it steers and thats the main thing theres def no delays in steering now its ok.

Wrong! Thats the problem, you have nothing to compare it to that goes where its told.

[steves1977uk]

I fear you are forgetting not all are as capable as BM when it comes to modding or retrofitting control systems.

I realise that rover, but it can be done with the correct plugs/connectors and tools. Also an OEM programmer.

Steve

[duke1]

hi steves well she is happy enough with the way it steers and thats the main thing theres def no delays in steering now its ok.

Wrong! Thats the problem, you have nothing to compare it to that goes where its told.

hi bm we have the 2 other reprogrammed to your settings chairs so i think we are ok as long as she is happy is all that matters though yes i do wish wcs chairs still used pg drives but being as its wcs we do not get a choice but like i say its for indoors and hospitals so will seldom be used hopefully outside our house,being midwheel drive it will be utterly useless round here anyhow!

[rover220]

I fear you are forgetting not all are as capable as BM when it comes to modding or retrofitting control systems.

I realise that rover, but it can be done with the correct plugs/connectors and tools. Also an OEM programmer.

Steve

your average chair user would not manage it nor would they be able to get required connectors and almost certainly not oem programmer

[terry2]

Hey guys.

Can someone who has the new large screen controller tell me if the profile button can go up and down the profiles please.

Like on my old DX2 I could go 1-2-3-4-5 or 5-4-3-2-1

On my new R-Net system. It won't go down. So I have to stop, then cycle through the profiles.

Thanks

no the right speed paddle can only adjust speed if the parameter is enabled in programming. profiles only step up not down regardless of programming.

Thanks for the info.

Just paid for my R-Net OEM programmer from curtiss wright.
They are bloody cheap until you add shipping and VAT booooooooo

[Burgerman]

Adding 20% to everything we buy is how we get the free socialist NHS.

[steves1977uk]

Just paid for my R-Net OEM programmer from curtiss wright.
They are bloody cheap until you add shipping and VAT booooooooo

I thought Curtiss-Wright didn't sell OEM programmers to us end users? Have they woken up and realised those that know what they're doing can buy them directly from CW without having to use a third-party? Or did Terry order from PSS?

Steve

[Burgerman]

They will sell if you sound like you know what you are talking about. Ask me how I know... Also power modules, joysticks, etc. Ask a dumb question, or sound like an end user and nope...

[terry2]

Just paid for my R-Net OEM programmer from curtiss wright.
They are bloody cheap until you add shipping and VAT booooooooo

I thought Curtiss-Wright didn't sell OEM programmers to us end users? Have they woken up and realised those that know what they're doing can buy them directly from CW without having to use a third-party? Or did Terry order from PSS?

Steve

I signed up for a account with them.
Then ordered a OEM over the phone. They are only £154 +shipping and vat

[Burgerman]

I have an account since 98. They wont supply end users but if you are a business then no prob.

[terry2]

I have an account since 98. They wont supply end users but if you are a business then no prob.

And yet they did

Gift of the gab me

[steves1977uk]

Just paid for my R-Net OEM programmer from curtiss wright.
They are bloody cheap until you add shipping and VAT booooooooo

I thought Curtiss-Wright didn't sell OEM programmers to us end users? Have they woken up and realised those that know what they're doing can buy them directly from CW without having to use a third-party? Or did Terry order from PSS?

Steve

I signed up for a account with them.
Then ordered a OEM over the phone. They are only £154 +shipping and vat

Surprised you had to pay VAT Terry, as when I order spares from CW they usually send me a Pro-Forma for VAT relief. So I'd pay £154+£10 P+P if I ordered one.

[terry2]

The delivery was £35 for some reason.
I won't get it till after the 14th.

I may just have a play then sell it.

[steves1977uk]

£35 delivery! How on earth is it that much? I wouldn't sell it because you never know when you might need to re-program another chair with R-net. Or a friends.

Steve

[hank]

Bargain of the year Terry

[rover220]

delivery is a flat fee no matter what they ship, ridiculous frankly as royal mail special delivery could be done for under £9